Age of Attraction Episode 1 | You Think Age Doesn’t Matter… Until It Does

Speaker A: 00:00:00

Would you fall for someone before knowing their age and still feel the same once you found out? Welcome Back to From Mrs. To Miss. I'm Andrea, and today we're kicking off something new that is so up our alley.

I'm joined by my girl, Ozzy Osbourne, and we are diving into Netflix's Age of Attraction because this show hits every conversation that we love having. Dating patterns, emotional maturity, chemistry versus compatibility, and of course, the double standards that still exist when it comes to age.

Oh, and here's the fun part. We're turning this into a series.

Ozzy and I are going to recap each episode, break down the biggest moments, call out the red flags, and unpack what's really happening beneath the surface. Because this show isn't just about age. It's about what we've been conditioned to.

Speaker B: 00:00:53

Believe about life, love.

Speaker A: 00:00:54

All right, let's get into episode one.

Speaker B: 00:00:57

Here we go. Welcome Back to From Mrs. To Miss. I'm your host, Andrea.

This is a show where we get real about modern dating, relationships, attraction, and all the complicated stuff in between. Now, if you guys know me, then you already know why I'm going to be talking about this show today with my bestie, Ozzy, who is here with me. Ozzy. Hi.

Hi. This is so cool.

Speaker C: 00:01:43

I love this.

Speaker B: 00:01:43

So, okay, so we are really excited to talk about a new show that's come out more recently, and we're kind of jumping on the bandwagon on this one. I already heard there' season two coming, so that's exciting. Which means it did well. And we're going to dive deep into Netflix's age of Attraction.

We're gonna kick off a brand new recap series. We're gonna break down the biggest moments on Age of Attraction.

We're gonna talk about the strongest connections, the red flags, the awkward reveals, and of course, all the double standards that come along with this when it comes to Asian attraction. So let's be honest. A dating show built around singles forming connections before knowing each other's ages. This is right up our alley, isn't it?

Speaker C: 00:02:26

Yes, it is.

Speaker B: 00:02:27

It absolutely is. This is a conversation we're ready to have.

All right, so this is perfect because it's going to challenge everything that we talk about here on from Mrs. To Miss, which is dating.

Intentionally breaking old patterns and questioning whether you're truly choosing based on compatibility or simply based on social conditioning or how somebody looks. The chemistry we get with a younger person. Yeah. So, yes.

So whether you're here for the drama or the dating psychology or just to See if love can actually override age expectations, then we have got you guys covered all season long. We are ready to break down just episode one this week.

So before we dive in, if you haven't watched Itch of Attraction yet, I'm going to give you the premise of it. Okay, so this is a Netflix dating series. It brings together a group of singles from all different ages.

They come to a luxury retreat, which we're going to talk about. But there's one major twist. No one initially knows how old anyone is.

Now, the goal is for the contestants to build emotional and physical connections without age immediately influencing their choices. So as relationships develop, the ages are eventually revealed. Our jaws drop when we hear it.

And this kind of forces everyone to confront their own dating preferences, biases, and assumptions.

So the show really explores whether attraction, chemistry and compatibility can outweigh the societal expectations that we often place on age in relationships.

And that's why this show is so fascinating for us, because it's opening up the door to conversations about all of this, about the dating patterns, about emotional maturity, double standards, and whether people are truly dating for connection or just based on the numbers. All right, I've said enough. We're going to jump into.

I want to make sure everybody knows what we're talking about because it is kind of a newer show, and so we're ready to kind of dive in. So, Ozzy.

Speaker C: 00:04:25

Yes.

Speaker B: 00:04:25

What was your first impression of the show itself? And then we'll dive into the cast a little bit more, but just the show itself. Were you like, oh, this is up my alley.

Speaker C: 00:04:35

At first I was a little resistant, and then I was like, okay, I'm curious. I really wanna see what they're doing here, how they're doing it, and what is going to be the outcome, because it is fascinating.

And I, I, in my own life, I found myself at age 42 with a 29 year old. And so I remember what that was like and what went through my mind. And so I sort of put myself in their shoes and, uh.

Speaker B: 00:05:02

Yeah.

Speaker C: 00:05:02

And I know we'll unpack some more, but that, that was, that was what came up for me.

Speaker B: 00:05:07

So wait, what made you resistant?

Speaker C: 00:05:10

I don't know. I was like, what's really. Like, this is like, what's it about? Yeah, like what? You know, is this. Yeah. Is. Is this gonna be another train wreck?

You know, I, I really jumped on the bandwagon with what's the other show?

Speaker B: 00:05:26

Love is Blind.

Speaker C: 00:05:27

Love is Blind. Yeah. Okay. Which are really, really loved.

And then eventually, like, I think I Think for me it was like, oh, it's gonna be another show that's gonna be maybe. Maybe great, or maybe it'll be a train wreck.

But then all of a sudden, everyone's gonna figure out the premise of it, and they're gonna jump on there just because they want, I don't know, whatever was going through my mind. They want fame, and it's just gonna ruin the whole show. And so that is a lot of it.

Speaker B: 00:05:50

And I did see an ad with one of the girls on it the other day, and I'm like, oh, she's already doing her stop brand deals. Oh, yeah. But I think the thing for me was, because I know I kind of passed it over first, I felt like it felt cheesy to me a little bit.

Like, at first when I just saw, you know, when you stop on Netflix and it starts showing you what's going on on it, I was like, that looks a little cheesy. And so I wasn't sure I really wanted to watch it. And then I talked to you, and you're like, oh, it's so good. So I'm like, okay, let me give it a try.

My only hang up, I think, on it is obviously you're seeing the other people, you know, if they're younger or older, right? So it's not that far off.

Like, you can look at someone who looks to be young, and, yeah, they might be a little bit older or younger within a few years, but it's not gonna be that far off unless you're finding somebody who you're just like, there's no way that they're 80 years old because they look like they're 50, right? So I think that's where it gets a little bit tricky for me.

Cause it's not like you're blind, so not like love is blind, right, where we're not seeing them. And that might have been a better added element that they were blind and didn't know ages, right? Because they say their ages on Love is blind.

So that could have been more of a twist.

Speaker C: 00:07:07

But. And by the way, I think if I was doing the show, I would. I would have not revealed the age until the end. Like, let the end.

Yeah, let them play it out. Like, the fact that they put that and made that such a big deal right up front was kind of. I was like, okay.

But I think the true test would have been let them meet. Let them start a relationship, right? Like, take them through this journey. And I know that they were trying to rush us probably.

So I would have taken them on a longer journey to see, you know, how it is, what it feels like. Because at the end of the day, does age matter?

And the minute that they found out each other's age, I feel like that's when, you know, the biases and the things. Things shifted very quickly even though they tried.

Speaker B: 00:07:53

Expectations. Yes. I think your expectations change because you expect different things from a older, more mature person than you would from a younger person.

So once you know that about them, you're like, oh, I think that level just changes. And we'll get into when and how they reveal their ages.

But I definitely agree with you that they should have let it go right till the end, then see where the couples are, if they are totally in love or not, and then go, oh, and by the way, I'm 22.

Speaker C: 00:08:26

Yes.

Speaker B: 00:08:27

So I don't know. I think they missed the mark on that one.

Speaker C: 00:08:30

But, but I. I will say that. I will say that, you know, Nick and Natalie, the hosts, you know, they came to this experience already having that huge age gap.

I think there were 18 years. 18 Years. There's 18 years between them.

Speaker B: 00:08:46

18.

Speaker C: 00:08:46

So I think that that sort of helped set the tone and almost put people at ease that it can succeed.

Speaker B: 00:08:54

Yeah.

Speaker C: 00:08:55

Right. So I think I. I like that they had that as a role model because again, who knows? I mean, we only know what they show us. Right?

Speaker B: 00:09:03

Right.

Speaker C: 00:09:04

But it seemed as though, you know, that they've successfully been able to form a relationship now they have a child. I think there's another on the way. Right. Like they're building a family.

And again, we don't know inside their relationship, so we really don't know what their. What their obstacles are like. Yeah.

Speaker B: 00:09:26

So I do think, because I, I do. I listen to the Vile Files too, and I know Nick from the Bachelor. Right. He was a bachelor. And he is, I want to say he's like 43, something like that.

And she is in her 20s. She's like 25ish. Right. That is a pretty big. That's pretty big gap.

But I do remember them kind of talking about their story many times on the show and that he kind of held her at bay for a long time. You know, they met and dated. I'm using air quotes on that. Hung out and stuff. But he was very hesitant because of that age gap, so it's interesting.

But he looks younger too. He doesn't really look like his age. Yeah, like when we were watching it, um, or like, wait, how old is Nick compared to her?

You know, I Wasn't sure there was that big of an age gap, even though I knew there was, but.

Speaker C: 00:10:15

Yeah.

Speaker B: 00:10:16

And she looked.

Speaker C: 00:10:16

She looked. You know, I think when she started talking, you could sense her. Her youth or, you know, how young she was.

But when he does, he doesn't present in his 40s for sure. Right. But I also think for our. For a second here, let's just kind of put this into the space.

Speaker B: 00:10:34

Cause I think.

Speaker C: 00:10:34

I think in our society, it is. For centuries, it's been. It's been acceptable or accepted that older men date younger women. Right. So it's.

Speaker B: 00:10:47

It.

Speaker C: 00:10:47

It's. Maybe it's even for our eyes. It just doesn't. Doesn't matter like it does. It's fine. Right.

Like, we wouldn't have known otherwise, because it's something that's. We've accepted almost. I don't know. I'm curious if you had that same sense, because I was more taken back by the.

I think the women that were older than the younger men.

Speaker B: 00:11:09

Yeah.

Speaker C: 00:11:10

And. Yeah. So it was interesting how it was like, the biases that I carried with me into the show.

Speaker B: 00:11:19

Well, it's funny because I'll just put this out there. I don't like them as the hosts. I don't think they're very good. I'm just gonna say that. And I'm saying that because he's so a. He's so dry.

He's such a dry person. Personality. There isn't a whole lot of personality to him now. I think he's great as, like, a relationship expert and talking to people.

I listen to him talk to a lot of people, and I'm always like, oh, I didn't think about that or. Yeah, he really dug deep into that one. And I like that. And I think he's good on. On the air.

I just don't think he was right for, like, a camera guy to be.

Speaker C: 00:11:57

No, he seems nervous.

Speaker B: 00:11:59

Yeah, he's sense.

Speaker C: 00:12:00

I got that. He's nervous. She was nervous. Listen, it's new. Like, who knows? Like, the next iteration could be. You know, it's the same thing when. With Nick and.

And Vanessa. I think when they first. And I still. They still get a lot of, you know, people still. Yeah, people are still not liking them.

So, you know, at the end of the day, like, they weren't enough on camera where it, like, threw me off. I didn't really mind them, but I know what you're talking about. Definitely dry and nervous and not. They just didn't look comfortable with their.

No, I think they're also reading a script too. So I think there's.

Speaker B: 00:12:34

That was obvious, I think.

Speaker C: 00:12:36

Yeah, I think so. Some people are just really nervous when it comes to reading a script and getting it perfect.

Speaker B: 00:12:44

Yeah. I think she was just. I don't know, she was just trying too hard to fit into that role of TV host on there. That's how I felt.

Like she was just being very. The way she was talking, it was kind of robotic and exactly how they wanted to say. Instead of just relaxing again. It could be that it's just.

And we are on the first episode we're talking about here. I don't think I felt any different near the end on them.

I'm kind of hoping they switch them out for the next season, but I don't think that'd be cool.

Speaker C: 00:13:12

But I think he's. I think he's. He probably pitched this. I think that's his. Yeah. So I think, I think. Because I think the production is Vile Files or whatever. Whatever.

There you go then.

Speaker B: 00:13:22

He ain't going nowhere.

Speaker C: 00:13:23

He ain't going, girl.

Speaker B: 00:13:25

Stay. I'm not saying I wouldn't like to be on his podcast. I'm not saying that.

Speaker C: 00:13:30

Would it stop you from watching it?

Speaker B: 00:13:34

No, because I did watch it and I listened to his and like I listen to his podcast. Oh, I feel like one of these days I'm actually going to be in their little house guests on his podcast.

And there was this whole seven degrees of separation between my, my, my daughter in law and she met this girl Dana that was on Vanderpump Rules, and she's doing a podcast with Katie, Katie Maloney. And then so they're doing a podcast together and it is run by Nick's network and it's like NV Media, I think is his network or something like that.

And I was like, oh, there's my seven degrees of separation. So when my daughter in law has lunch with Dana, she can mention, oh, by the way, my mother in law has a podcast and she would love to be on the show.

Speaker C: 00:14:19

Yes. Yeah, we're investing that shit.

Speaker B: 00:14:22

Putting that up. Not now. Now he's like, yeah, you didn't like me on my show, so I'm not going to have you on there. No.

Speaker C: 00:14:28

He likes controversy. I will tell you, he is not going to shy away from someone, you know, being, you know, polarizing.

Speaker B: 00:14:38

Yeah. And you know what? Honestly, I think he knows he doesn't have much personality, so he doesn't care. He doesn't care. He's making the money.

It doesn't matter what Do I have to say about it? Nothing. All right, so let's talk a little bit about the cast on there.

Speaker C: 00:14:56

Okay.

Speaker B: 00:14:57

Okay.

Speaker C: 00:14:58

I got some notes. I did, too.

Speaker B: 00:15:00

I was just like, let me get my notes on this. Because I have all their little ages written down and stuff, because that's important and I don't want to give that away. Right.

Because we have to be real careful not to give away their ages. But it allows me to talk about it a little bit bit more. So who so far in the first episode, who's your favorite?

Like, it doesn't even need to be a couple yet because we don't know how that plays out. But do you have a favorite girl and a favorite guy?

Speaker C: 00:15:26

I will tell you, in the first episode, I was very intrigued by Teresa. I think they gave her a lot of.

Speaker B: 00:15:34

They gave her a lot of air time, for sure.

Speaker C: 00:15:37

And, you know, she's around. I mean, she's older than me, but yeah, you know, I, I, I was, I, I was like, giving her props. Like, I liked her outfits.

I liked her, you know, her attitude. Although throughout the episode, I started to kind of, kind of to not. So there's that. So at first they, they all get together and they all do.

They swap, right. They go from 1:1 to the next to the next. And I think at one point, one of them asked the other one, so how much money do you make?

Speaker B: 00:16:09

Yeah.

Speaker C: 00:16:09

And I was like, such a cliche. La question. Right? Like, it was just like, really? I thought Libby was what a character. She is. Like, isn't she 12? I mean, Taylor Swift.

Speaker B: 00:16:25

Swifty, right?

Speaker C: 00:16:26

Like, girl. But my son walked by as I was watching, and he's like, dang. I'm like, really? That, that she did not. She, she just put it all out there.

I thought that. I really like Derek.

Speaker B: 00:16:42

Derek. Derek. Derek.

Speaker C: 00:16:44

Derek. It was Derek and Pfeiffer. So Derek. Yeah.

Speaker B: 00:16:46

Yes.

Speaker C: 00:16:47

He doesn't look like he's real, but there was something very grounded about him.

Speaker B: 00:16:51

Yeah.

Speaker C: 00:16:51

And I really liked his energy.

Speaker B: 00:16:54

Yes.

Speaker C: 00:16:56

And I thought that he was mature and he's a dad. Right. Like, it seemed that he was. I did like that some of the guys that are dads really spoke fondly of their role as, as dad, which I like.

Speaker B: 00:17:08

I love that. Yeah. So, yes. And I like Derek, too, and I like his personality. I think he's really cute. I know what it is. It's not that he was an avatar.

He's like a, like claymation. He's like his, his skin is so perfect. His features and everything. It's almost like a claymation doll where you're like, God, is he real?

Just the way he looks. It's so interesting. So interesting. So, yeah, I agree with you. I. I love Teresa. There's moments that I was like, ick.

Speaker C: 00:17:41

I got the ick from her, like, towards the end of the episode, you know, it was interesting. It was like, look, I. Did you forget what show you're on?

Speaker B: 00:17:49

Yeah.

Speaker C: 00:17:50

That you're. All of a sudden, you care about your image, you care about. Right. Because John. So she. She and John were like. Right.

Speaker B: 00:18:00

Like vain, like magnets. Yes.

Speaker C: 00:18:03

And I want to say something. I really like John.

Speaker B: 00:18:06

Yeah.

Speaker C: 00:18:07

I thought that he was so mature for his age, that he had. And not only that, there was something very sturdy about him. I would imagine that.

That if you can define what feeling would make you be the most drawn to someone, I would imagine it would be this sense of safety with someone. Right. Someone. Yeah. Very consistent and, and, and. And pursues you and isn't afraid. Like, he takes a risk.

Speaker B: 00:18:35

He does.

Speaker C: 00:18:37

So attractive. And I was like. At first I was like, not my type, but then I was like, oh, oh, my type. Okay, Prince. Prince Harry. I got you.

Speaker B: 00:18:47

Yes. And he didn't seem intimidated. Intimidated by her at all, even though he knew she was older.

Speaker C: 00:18:55

Now.

Speaker B: 00:18:55

I didn't know how old her age was. And we won't give that away until the end because if you watch it, you'll know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You could tell she was older. Right.

Like, but I will say great body, great hair, great personality. She actually, I said she is a mixture of Elizabeth Shue and Jennifer Jason Lee. Really?

Jennifer Jason Lee, very much, if you remember her from, like, Single White Female, you know, really, every time I see her, I'm like, oh, my God. She's like, if they had a baby. And. And I was thinking, though, where you could see it was a little bit in her face. Right.

So you knew she was older, but I didn't know, like, how much. I was trying to guess and just kind of see and.

Speaker C: 00:19:41

And him,.

Speaker B: 00:19:43

He seemed pretty like a normal age. He didn't seem too young. He didn't seem too old. He just kind of seemed right in there.

Speaker C: 00:19:49

Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker B: 00:19:50

So I like them.

Speaker C: 00:19:52

I was impressed by how much he. He almost. It was almost a challenge for him that she gave off a little bit hesitation, resistance, you know, look, she was.

She's been married twice, so she seems like someone who's been hurt a lot.

Speaker B: 00:20:07

Right.

Speaker C: 00:20:07

Like, she seemed like she carried a big chip on her shoulders. She tried to Put it on her kids as though the kids were the thing. And it's like, I don't know.

I, I could tell just, just, you know, and the line of work that I do, that, that clearly, girl, you got, you know, a good therapist would do or coach would go a long way with you. Girl, you got a lot of grief. Way. A lot of grief.

Because look, once you understand the premise of the show, at some point you gotta surrender and just kind of like let go of your biases, let go of this image thing. But I also understood her because I had the same thing when I was dating the 29 year old at 42.

Speaker B: 00:20:51

And you were 42.

Speaker C: 00:20:53

I was like, what would people say? What would it look like? I'm close to her in age with his mom. I, you know, I, I was like,.

Speaker B: 00:21:01

Well, what your kids say?

Speaker C: 00:21:04

My kids loved him. Oh my.

Speaker B: 00:21:07

Okay.

Speaker C: 00:21:08

Like he almost wanted to hang out with them more than he wanted me. And eventually I was like, wait, did I just adopt a third child?

Speaker B: 00:21:19

But that's a good point. What does it start to feel like when they are that much younger?

Are they almost a third child if they're closer in age to your kids than they are to you? Do that. Does it feel like, oh, shit, now I just got me another child in the house that's probably not leaving any.

Speaker C: 00:21:37

Not leaving. Yeah, no, I think, you know, and I guess this beg the question of.

Right, because, because when we, we're thinking of this like a younger person dating an older person, at what point would it start to impact the relationship? Like, and what would impact it? Right, right. Like generation gaps. Right. Like what, what our generation is used to or went through.

We can't really identify with this new generation that, that does things completely differently. Right. So it's, it's sort of like misalignment, mismatched. And then also for. There's been a lot of life lived for someone who's older.

Speaker B: 00:22:15

There has.

Speaker C: 00:22:16

Right. So you're bringing a lot more into the relationship.

And can the other person, you know, well, I don't want to say measure up, but can the other person, like, live up to, to that? Does it get in? Does it.

You know, there were so many times where, in my relationship with the younger guy, there were so many times where I was like, wait, he doesn't know who. I'm just making this up, but he doesn't know who Madonna is or he doesn't know who blah, blah, blah is. And it's, and it came up in the show too.

Speaker B: 00:22:45

Yeah, right.

Speaker C: 00:22:45

Like Somebody didn't know. Oh, with Libby? Yes.

Speaker B: 00:22:49

Yes. Anyway, no, I. I get it. I had the same thing when I first got divorced, and I dated a 29 year old, and I think I was 42. That's really funny.

And we went to go to, like, a little concert. It was a tribute band for Bon Jovi. And I am like, yes, this is awesome. You know, and they're saving all of their good songs till later.

And then he's like, like, let's go before. Before the miles are. And I'm like, no, wait. They're gonna do, like, Living on a Prayer. And he's like, wow.

Speaker C: 00:23:22

He's like, is Backstreet Boys down the street?

Speaker B: 00:23:25

Yes. He didn't even know. Like, he found no joy in it at all. He's like, I don't even know these songs. And I'm like, okay.

And that was a bit of an eye opener for me. I was like, okay, that's where we're gonna differ, and that's gonna happen. Tell me what you think about Vanelle.

Okay, so Vanelle, let's just discuss this a little bit, because she is kind of. She's met two guys in the first episode, right? Justin and Jorge. He doesn't look like a Jorge. I'm just gonna say. He just doesn't.

I want to call him George. Okay, so Justin and George. There is this battle that she's feeling, I think, between emotional safety and intense chemistry.

And I'm saying that the safety with Justin, the chemistry with George, AKA Jorge. So. And that is really what so many women struggle with, right?

Because we're pulled toward that excitement and the unpredictability and not so much towards the safe person that you were talking about, even though we crave that. We want the safety and we want the security, but first of all, we want to feel the tingles in the hoo Ha. Right? We want to get those banny flutters.

And we're like, yeah. And so I think that's what was happening with her. I think she liked Jorge, first of all. I'm sorry. Nope. Try again. Justin. She liked Justin.

He was pretty. He's pretty average guy. I thought he was. He was handsome. Kind of maybe a little bit of a Robert Downey Jr. Look to him a little bit.

I think he had a pretty good job, if I recall correctly. And you could tell maybe, like, it was a good age gap there. Not. There was still a gap, but not huge. Right.

And so, you know, I think she started hanging out with him, and he, like, gave her the kiss. On the first thing, and they were both like, woo. That was a pretty good kiss. Right.

And so then she started talking to Jorge and then, you know, you were like, ooh. You could feel a little of the sizzle heat. And the conversation was different between the two you of. Of them.

So I thought that was really interesting. And you could feel her kind of leaning one way more than another.

But I think she was really wanting the security and the safety, but she was being pulled by that magnet, and I think we lost her.

Speaker C: 00:25:50

Yeah, no, it was. It was interesting because it was. I didn't think she was going to pick Jorge. A little too forward maybe for her and maybe two, you know, whereas.

Whereas Justin felt very emotional and there and like, present, but almost like. Almost like overboard. It was almost like borderline creepy.

Speaker B: 00:26:12

Yes.

Speaker C: 00:26:13

And I was like, oh, I kind.

Speaker B: 00:26:15

Of got the ick.

Speaker C: 00:26:15

Because I was like, it's almost too caked on and it didn't feel authentic. I got the ick quite quickly. And then Jorge was very direct and very, like, says it like it is. He's an attorney. Right. Like, so he.

He's very, like, straightforward, and he knows what he wants and he kind of goes after it. And. And you could kind of tell that. Well, first of all, she presents very mature.

Speaker B: 00:26:40

Let's just start there. Yes, she does. Yes.

Speaker C: 00:26:43

And it'll be interesting because we'll get into some more about her later. In other episodes.

Speaker B: 00:26:49

You think that Jorge was a little bit more, like, intriguing because he's attorney. He's an attorney. Because he had that mysteriousness to him. He was a little bit more, you know, she felt that magnetic chemistry with him.

There was something that was, like, pulling her towards him. And I think it was mysterious for her a little bit more. So.

Speaker C: 00:27:13

Yeah, I don't know if it was a mystery. I actually think it really was that he was. There is a sense, like, I got dad. I'm gonna say this daddy issue. Like, I got.

Speaker B: 00:27:24

I need a dad. I need dad.

Speaker C: 00:27:26

Like, I need someone to take care of me.

Speaker B: 00:27:28

Yeah.

Speaker C: 00:27:28

And I think. I think, you know, there's the. The sturdiness that he brought. Felt more. Felt safer for her, you know, and. And that's something that.

That she was looking for. Right. She was looking to be taken care of. So I would imagine, like, I mean, that's.

Speaker B: 00:27:45

That's.

Speaker C: 00:27:46

That's what I experience with. With them.

Speaker B: 00:27:49

Yes, Agreed. Agreed. Okay, so what about. There's one that I want to bring up. Do you remember Tristan? So Tristan was little flirty guy.

You could tell he Was younger. He was aggressive. He had this uncomfortable energy about him. You talk about ick, Right?

Speaker C: 00:28:09

You're probably going to get to it. What he said about his mom.

Speaker B: 00:28:13

Oh, no, no, no. Say it. I wasn't gonna be specific. Everything he is saying and how he's acting, it says a lot about his dating behavior, I think.

And so I think there's a difference between confidence and maturity. Right. Like, he came in very aggressive, confident, thinks he, you know, is the shit. And extremely immature. The way he talked to blonde girl, Aaron.

Beautiful woman, and obviously older than him. And it was. He was, didn't he. Was he kind of like, hey, let's get out of here, or something?

Speaker C: 00:28:48

Like, hey, baby, you come here often?

Speaker B: 00:28:54

It was so gross. Like, and you were thinking, dude, what are you here for? Like, that's not the guy that she's looking for. To me.

Just turned him off for the rest of the show. I'm like, you're out of here. That was like, immediate warning signs on that one. Red flag, red flag, red flag. Did you agree? Yeah.

Speaker C: 00:29:12

He loved older women and kept talking about it and then said that, if you're not as hot as my mom, I'm not going to marry you. Like, what the heck?

Speaker B: 00:29:22

And why are you thinking your mom is so hot, buddy?

Speaker C: 00:29:25

Yeah, well, he also mentioned his mom. His mom was 19 years older than him. Oh, so that was. So that. There's that. That he probably grew up while his mom was growing up. Right.

Like, so he had a different kind of relationship with his mom and maybe.

Speaker B: 00:29:43

Probably his friends thinking she was hot. His mom was hot. You know,.

Speaker C: 00:29:49

It's weird.

Speaker B: 00:29:50

It is weird.

Speaker C: 00:29:52

We'll go on national TV and talk about your mom that way. I don't know. My. If my kid said that, I'd be like, bro, we need therapy.

Speaker B: 00:30:00

Yes. Mortified. So we're glad he's gone.

And then just to touch base before we move on to talk about the Promise Room, you know, we talked a little bit about Libby, and she was kind of talking with Andrew. Andrew was the one. Yeah. That she was talking with. And he's cute, Cute, cute, cute guy with little dimples. You know, he's.

He's got just a very specific look to him.

Speaker C: 00:31:53

Very cute.

Speaker B: 00:31:54

And I. He was, you know, attracted to her, obviously. You know, you saw her in that dress later with the backless dress, and you're like, damn. I didn't.

Speaker C: 00:32:04

Damn.

Speaker B: 00:32:04

I would let that out of my house. Oh, my God. I mean, she wore that dress. That was a phenomenal dress.

But anyway, the One thing I did laugh at was like, he was kind of being a little bit sensitive and saying how he thought she was really sweet and that there was something more to her, and he was excited to get to know it. And then she was like, ah, well, you're like, okay, cool. Yeah, maybe kind of like you, possibly. And I'm like, there it is.

If you didn't get that, the sentence with every little description about you to get back to like, you're okay, get out on that one. But he didn't. So I want to talk about the Promise Room. That was kind of a twist, right?

You're talking about the structure of emotional commitment before the age disclosure. And that adds the tension, and it forces the contestants to kind of confront their own biases, their own issues that they have with age.

But then you go into this Promise Room, which I thought was way too fast, and I really wish that they would put a timeline on the show, like a clock ticking. I need to know, how many days is this, how many hours is this before you guys are now going into the Promise Room, making this promise to each other?

I find it odd, the ring thing that they have rings that they put on each other. This is way too soon for this, and it's giving off the wrong impression to younger people out there. That's not going to happen.

You're not going to a promise ring in a few hours or a day. Right. So I didn't like that.

And then it forces them to go in there, make their commitment to each other emotionally that they're going to continue on this journey together, and then they release their ages again, like you said. I think we could have gone way till the end before we did that. Just let it play out. Let's see how they do. Not knowing, but it.

Some of them couldn't stand not knowing. They're like, I don't know what else to ask you other than how old you are. There was no other questions to ask. Yeah.

What did you think of the Promise Room? Yeah, I thought.

Speaker C: 00:34:06

I agree with you. I thought it was just over the top. It just, like, created this elephant in the room that, you know, oh, I need to find out. And then now what again?

I loved that John went into it going, it doesn't matter to me. Whatever age she reveals, I'm fine. I like her for her.

Speaker B: 00:34:24

And. And that's how you should be going into that.

Speaker C: 00:34:26

Yes. And I really liked it. Was that in episode one? I think so.

Speaker B: 00:34:30

We hope so. Well, they blend together, right? Because they keep, you know, they Cut you off like Love is Blind does.

They cut you off and they just run you right into the next episode. So you feel like you're in the same one. Yeah. But then you binge it. Yes, yes.

And then you gotta really figure out compartmentalize episode one here, so. No, I totally agree. And I think that it. I think it's too soon to put them into a Promise Room, but.

And it's also difficult because then the contestants, obviously, if you want to continue on in the show and stay at this luxurious, beautiful retreat, which it is, and they've made it. It's in Canada. Shout out. And it is absolutely like a beautiful place that they're getting to stay. Right.

And they get to spend quiet time together and learn about each other in a different environment. They don't have their phones and all of that, so of course you want to stay. And so everybody's trying to get to the Promise Room. Right. And.

And just so that you can become a couple and move forward. But there's so much more to come in this show. I mean, that was just episode one. And I'm.

I'm trying, kind of like you, I think, not to give anything away because it's hard to remember exactly where it ended in the first episode. I'm pretty sure that's where the jaw dropped when they announced John's age.

Speaker C: 00:35:47

Right.

Speaker B: 00:35:47

Was it Right at the end? So just to kind of recap there real quick, this is the one I said looked like Jennifer Jason Leigh.

And then John, who Ozzy's like, hell, yeah, he's cute. My little prince Harry. And these two got together, totally mature, totally vibing, great conversation, great connection all the way.

They are the first ones to go to the Promise Room. And then they're both a little nervous to announce their ages because she also mentioned she has three kids, her oldest one being 29. So.

Speaker C: 00:36:19

Drum roll, please.

Speaker B: 00:36:20

Drum roll when they say their ages. Yeah, he said his first. And he said he was. Let me look at my nose. 27. 27. A baby. Not even 30 years old.

And keep in mind that I just said her oldest son is 29, so he's two years younger than her older son. Her mouth dropped, her eyes bulged out of her head. She had to have known he was somewhere around there. But I would guess.

I would have guessed he was in his 30s. Yeah, but I said he was like, early 30s.

Speaker C: 00:36:53

Hold on one second, Ms. Andrea. Would you date someone younger than your child or around the same age as your kid?

Speaker B: 00:37:03

Same age. I mean, not now. Not now. I would not.

But, like, you know, when I came out of being divorced and you're just having fun and you're just like, let's see what's out there. What am I attracted to? What do I respond to do. How do I feel around them? Am I nervous about that?

That was, you know, that's kind of a social experiment when you're coming out of that. So I would have totally done that. Not younger than my kids, but somebody. Yeah, probably when I was. Yeah. 40, 29. That's what I went with.

I was good with that as good that now. No, because I don't have that attraction. While younger men are very attractive to me and very hot. I think there's very attractive older men.

And I think that older men, when they take care of themselves and I love a good salt and pepper hair. I love, like, Jorge is more. I'm like, hello, Jorge. All right, so. So which couples remind the listeners.

Which couples actually made promises to each other at the end of episode one, recall? Was it only the one?

Speaker C: 00:38:05

I think it was just Teresa and John at this point. But, you know, one person we. We missed talking about, which I thought. I thought she was kind of interesting, was Pfeiffer.

Speaker B: 00:38:16

I like her name because I love Michelle Pfeiffer. That's my favorite actress.

Speaker C: 00:38:20

Older men she meets at bars are pervy. Right.

Speaker B: 00:38:23

Sketchy and pervy.

Speaker C: 00:38:24

And I'm like, okay. Foreshadowing because. So she. There's something. There was something about her that was like. There was such a disconnect for me with her.

There was something off. Right. Totally. You could tell she was young. You could tell. Like, yes, certain.

Certain people on the show, you could tell their age, and some you couldn't. And yes, it was just. It was fascinating and it was interesting. She and she and Derek were. Were a match. I don't think I would have put them together.

Speaker B: 00:38:56

I wouldn't have put them together too. Yeah. And I do find it interesting also that the guys with these, you know, younger kids, although I think his child is like 4, 14. So when we get to.

I think next week for reveals her age, just remember me saying his son or daughter, I'm not sure, is 14. And so actually, I think Andrew's the same. I think Andrew's child is older too. The one that's with Libby.

Speaker C: 00:39:21

Yeah.

Speaker B: 00:39:21

I think he has older daughters.

Speaker C: 00:39:23

Yeah.

Speaker B: 00:39:24

Yeah. So that's very interesting that both of them with kids that are not three and four years old, they're older kids. Yeah, yeah.

That they were still very into Both of them women that appeared to be very younger.

Speaker C: 00:39:39

I will say, I will say Andrew also kind of like gave me a little bit of the ick, only because he's so into young. Like he really likes that young look.

Speaker B: 00:39:50

Really.

Speaker C: 00:39:51

And we're not talking about like a little bit younger. Like he seemed to really like, like really young.

Speaker B: 00:39:57

Really young.

Speaker C: 00:39:58

And to me that was like, okay, I don't know.

Speaker B: 00:40:01

And I think they talked about that a little bit when they were doing his introduction that he, you know, they were like, oh, and he's always dating really young and he's like, well, I'm like this hot dad, this hot young man. He is hot.

Speaker C: 00:40:13

Come on.

Speaker B: 00:40:14

He's hot. He's hot.

Speaker C: 00:40:15

So what can an older lady offer him? Just never know over here.

Speaker B: 00:40:24

Oh my gosh, that's so funny. So, okay, so so far, based on those couples that we mentioned, we don't know yet whether they make it to the Promise Room.

The only ones we know at this point is Teresa and John make it to the Promise Room. They do share their ages. She has not yet shared her age in episode one, so we're not going to spill the beans on that one. We only know John is 27.

Her mouth was like to the floor. Right. So we know that one. Then we have Pfeiffer and Derek who were saying Pfeiffer appears to be younger just by her speech. That's funny.

And Derek, he seems pretty average age to me. Middle aged. Right. And then we have Libby and Andrew. Very similar to Pfeiffer and Derek. And then we have Vanel and her two suitors, Justin and Hook.

Okay.

Speaker C: 00:41:18

Yes.

Speaker B: 00:41:19

So out of those ones, if you had not seen any more than episode one, what, who would you say right now that you feel could go the distance?

Speaker C: 00:41:28

I was rooting for Teresa and John at that point when I was watching it. Yeah. But also because I also feel like they really. I don't know if she's got an in with the producers, but she really got a lot of airtime.

Speaker B: 00:41:41

A lot of airtime. Now. She has an incredible smile and like an. It's infectious. Like when you see her smile and laugh, she's very appealing on camera.

You're rooting for it, right? You're rooting for the two of them. So I think that was really good. And at the time I think I was with Benell, I was going, oh, go for Jorge.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. He's an attractive older man. You could tell he was a little bit older. So I Like that too, the other ones.

Speaker C: 00:42:08

No, but I, but I could tell he was way too older. Like a lot older than her.

Speaker B: 00:42:13

A lot older. See, I didn't think that at the time. I thought he was older. But she looks very mature for her age at times too, you know.

Speaker C: 00:42:22

But, but by the way, she mentioned that her dad told her, Remember what she said about what her dad told her? That he can't be, I think he, he can't be more than 10 years older than her. Like she can't date anybody more than 10 years old than her.

Speaker B: 00:42:38

Well, this was not the right show for her then, was it? Clearly, clearly there, there's not supposed to be stipulations on the age, but hey, dad, let's send her to the show with a stipulation on the age.

Speaker C: 00:42:49

Okay, but they did bring it up. So I was, I was, I was. Okay. I don't know why she went on the show. I often wonder why people choose to go on.

Speaker B: 00:42:58

Well, I will say, and I think I told this to you the other day because I've been on. Those of you have listened to my, my shows, know I've been on a lot of game shows and I do get a lot of emails or perusing for me to be on later.

Dater show. I got called for that one. Millionaire Matchmaker. And also. I know. And then I got a thing a couple weeks ago for Age of Attraction.

Just after it started. Yeah. Because they knew they were doing season two, so they're trying to book season two. And I'm like, hey, let's put Aussie in the mix. Let's see.

Speaker C: 00:43:32

Would that not. And what did I tell you when.

Speaker B: 00:43:35

You told me that you were like, nope, I did it once. 29 Year old, not inches.

Speaker C: 00:43:41

I am not opposed to it. I'm not opposed to it. It's. I don't have any. I'm not discriminating against, against age.

Speaker B: 00:43:50

Should we do this as a social experiment? No, no, I'm not going to submit your application.

Speaker C: 00:43:57

Oh yeah, you can submit your applications, but I'm not going on dating show.

Speaker B: 00:44:00

If they call you, you're not gonna go.

Speaker C: 00:44:03

Not to a dating show now. No, I don't, I don't need to air my stuff on, on television and have it, have it be edited.

Speaker B: 00:44:11

Yeah.

Speaker C: 00:44:12

Just on podcasts. So you can come on here on podcast and we could have a little. Wouldn't that be fun?

Speaker B: 00:44:17

Yes. If you're interested to find somebody, we need to find somebody that they can just use my application and submit it in and See if they get picked.

That would be so fun. I would love to follow that. I'm trying to think of who. Who would be good for that. All right, I'll have to get back on that.

Speaker C: 00:44:36

I think at the end of the day, I think at this point in my life, it would. It would have to be someone who, you know, like, they're. They're settled.

Speaker B: 00:44:47

Yes, Right.

Speaker C: 00:44:49

Like, they're settled in their life. They, they love what they're doing. They love their life. Their life feels full. They want to enrich it with somebody wonderful.

Speaker B: 00:44:58

Wonderful.

Speaker C: 00:45:00

They, you know, like, they want to travel, they want to. They want adventure. That's where I'm at. I'm. I'm, you know, I don't think that.

I don't know about, like, building from scratch or like, doing like, all that. Doesn't appeal to me, I don't think.

Speaker B: 00:45:16

Yeah.

Speaker C: 00:45:16

But then again, my heart is open. I know.

Speaker B: 00:45:20

What if you met a little John on there, Little Prince Harry? You'd be like, yeah, but he was a little bit older. He's not 27. He's like. But if he was like 40. See, but they didn't really.

They're not really showing those ones. The ones that are matching up that are really similar in age. They're not interested. Yeah, it's you really.

It has to be kind of polarizing to be on, to make it further in the show, which, you know, begs me to ask that question. Do you think some of it is that they're just trying to have this relationship so that they can get further in the show?

Are they genuinely feeling this is Andrew genuinely going, oh, this young girl Libby, who's calling me. Okay. Cute, sorta kind of sweet. Is that really my person? Because everybody these days is looking for fame, right?

And they know getting on these shows can really do that for you. And it already is for them. So some.

Speaker C: 00:46:16

But you also know that they're being casted. Right. So they know what they're doing when they're putting people on the show. They obviously may not know how it's going to.

To end, but they certainly know that they. That, that, you know, they pick their characters wisely and so they don't just, like, do a cattle call and then everybody comes and starts dating.

Right. They procure it so that it can a be polarizing and be good tv and. And they're going to put on. They're going to put on all the drama that.

That would get their audience to pay attention and to continue to pay attention and, you know, and Then talk about it beyond the show. Right. Like, I mean, they're on all the podcasts talking about it. Yeah. All over Instagram. So, you know, are all of them looking for fame? I don't know.

I, I, I still am such a romantic. You know, at the end of the day, like, I want to know that some people are on there looking for love reads. Yeah.

And I think that there are, there have been people who successfully been able to find a relationship on these shows. And I, I, I always root for that. I wish they showed more of that.

Less, less of the drama and the mismatches and the trauma bonding that you see on every single show where you're like, oh, yeah, I could certainly be their relationship coach.

Speaker B: 00:47:37

And it makes us feel so much better about ourselves when we see them on there. I wish I could just submit my application just to see what would happen. I'm always curious just to see am I what they would be looking for.

I don't know.

Speaker C: 00:47:49

Oh, you would totally, you would totally be someone that, that they would put in there.

Speaker B: 00:47:53

I say that, but I submitted, I think I put in for later daters. I think I, I was like single daters. So later daters. I don't know what network that's on. It's, you should watch it. It's, it's older people.

I want to say 50 and older, and they have like four or five specific people that they send them out on three blind dates, and then at the end they decide if they want to move forward with one of them.

And so it was interesting because they're all older and they've all been married or have older kids, and they're just wanting to have fun and meet somebody. And so it's, it's an interesting show. That's another one you could watch, talk about. So, But I didn't hear anything on that.

I, I like to think I just wasn't quite old enough. Exactly, Exactly.

Speaker C: 00:48:39

I love it.

Speaker B: 00:48:40

Oh, well, that was a. Huh.

Speaker C: 00:48:43

Maybe you should do as an experiment and we know it'd be fun just.

Speaker B: 00:48:46

To fill it out and see, but how far could I go before I would go, okay, wait, I have a boyfriend.

Speaker C: 00:48:53

As far as you. As you. Yeah, as far as you can.

Speaker B: 00:48:56

As far as I want.

Speaker C: 00:48:57

And then could always say no. I mean, obviously, at some point they offer you the, you know, the spot and they invite you to come and be part of the cast, but why not?

Speaker B: 00:49:06

Let's try that. Let's just fill it out and put it in and see if I even get to the next step.

Speaker C: 00:49:13

Yes.

Speaker B: 00:49:13

Boy, that'll feel nice. I'm moving up the ladder of Age of Attraction. Oh, all right. Well, I am so glad we got to recap that.

I'm actually excited to go through this, and because it is fun, it's. It's actually even more fun to talk about it and get other people's opinions on it.

So thank you for coming on to share your opinion about the whole show with me. I think this one, because you and I have not talked at all about the show. You were like, hey, have you watched that show, Age of Attraction?

I was like. And you go, you should watch it. And then you go, oh, we should do a recap on it. And I'm like, yeah, we should.

And so right in that moment, we're like, okay, we don't talk about it. We save it all for the podcast. And then we get to really expound and talk about each of the characters. Characters like they're not people.

Each of the. Each of the lovely persons, maybe.

Speaker C: 00:50:05

Because, by the way, there's still some cast members we haven't spoken about that maybe.

Speaker B: 00:50:09

That is exactly right there. I. Yeah, I have it written down. There's actually quite a few more, and it gets juicy as it goes.

I'm actually excited just to even get to episode two, because I think there was some good juice in that one. So. So we hope you guys are loving this recap.

If you haven't watched it, we're only on episode one, guys, yet you gotta jump on this bandwagon with us because we're gonna be talking about each of these episodes. So next time, we're gonna talk about episode two. So we want you to join us for that.

There's still time to hop on before we finish here with episode one, and you're gonna love it. And we wanna hear from you guys if you are loving this. We wanna hear what you think about each of them, of the couples.

Who is your favorite couple and why? And we also are interested, as we go on, to know how you feel about this whole age discrepancy thing. You know, do you have a preferred age range?

And does attraction truly override preconceived limitations? So that will be exciting to see. So if you loved hearing this, just comment DM us. You can reach us. Actually, Ozzy is.

For those of you that know my girl Ozzie, she's on my other podcast with me called Menopause Love Lounge. That's a bit of a different story over there that we're talking about. And so she has come on this one. She's cross. What is that called?

Cross promoting. Cross. Cross potting with me like that. She's cross potting. So yeah, if you guys love that, reach out to me. You can find me on instagram at from Mrs.

The number two miss.

And also you'll see full YouTube on video if you want to go on and watch her and I having this conversation because our facial expressions are everything. And you can email me@frommisses to miss podcast gmail.com. I want to hear from you guys.

We want to hear if you like talking about this and give us some of your feedback. Yeah.

Speaker C: 00:52:01

Yes. Thank you for having me.

Speaker B: 00:52:03

Absolutely. All right, you guys, thank you for joining us. If you want to check out Aussie, she does do some relationship and dating coaching for peeps.

If you want to give your stuff, we want them to find you as well.

Speaker C: 00:52:15

Yeah, you can find me on Instagram. I am Ozzy Osbourne. The last Ozzy as we're standing. But Ozzy Osborne is easy. I E o s b o r N e oh, that voice.

Speaker B: 00:52:27

That voice. They should have hired you to be like, the speaker of it. So good.

Speaker C: 00:52:32

Welcome to gauge of attraction.

Speaker A: 00:52:35

See, as they go to the promise.

Speaker B: 00:52:37

Room, will they actually still be in love when they walk out? Yeah, we're kind of thinking maybe not. All right, you guys, thank you so much for joining us. We'll see you next time with episode two.

Talk to you later. Bye.

Speaker C: 00:52:53

Love ya.